Projects/Side Projects: Drummer/Vocalist For Even Twice


Years Performing: Even Twice started in 2012. I have been performing in bands on drums, guitar, bass and/or vocals since the 90s


How have you been coping with the current Covid-19 crisis? I've been writing a lot, for the band and for myself. Me and Bob (my bandmate) have been rehearsing all new material for the past 5 months.


Do you feel like playing in a Rock Duo gives you more freedom artistically or is it more musically constricting? I feel playing in a duo forces you to be more creative. You have to approach it differently, especially on a compositional level. If one of us shows up to rehearsal with an idea, we both work on it together and try and avoid any cliches.


How much does political/societal issue influence your song writing? We recorded a song called "Comin' after you" about the immigration ban. It was supposed to be on our last album "This is Boomerang", but for some reason, was left off. It's on our Bandcamp page, though. The newer, unrecorded material will vary between the personal and political. 


What does 2021 have in store for Even Twice? Hopefully, gig and record. We cancelled a small east coast tour in 2020. Hooking up with a major (ish) act to tour with would be nice. Also, finding a manager so I don't have to do it anymore is what I want for Christmas. (ha)

Covid Holiday Plans? No holiday plans. Waiting for 2020 to come to a merciful end.


Famous Last Words: We're the hairiest band in show business. That should count for something.


For More Pat O'Shea And Even Twice Click HERE



Welcome to Musical Osmosis

Over the past 6 and a half years I have been involved in several different podcasting projects. We've done a political show that lasted from 2013 until just before the 2016 election and then ended very badly (can you say hate-filled chaos parade?). We had a trivia podcast that fizzled out after 77 episodes with a whimper, and our Kettle Of Fish podcast that lasted 104 episodes and then sadly came to an end when my best friend and cohost lost both of her parents within a couple of months of each other and had to move back home to Maine. But throughout it all (my short-lived Tin Can Media Podcast Network, My children's book "Edward" that never got off the ground, my time spent as a political writer for such sites as "If You Only News" and "Daily Discourse" that went down in flames) the one constant has been the music. 

I started the Musical Osmosis podcast back in 2013 when I realized I could actually talk to some of my musical heroes from the comfort of my bathrobe. The podcast ran for about 6 months as I chatted with everyone from Steve Moriarty from the riveting Seattle punk band the Gits to the great Chicago working-class punk pioneer Joey Vindictive. But something was missing. I had no zig to my zag no McMahon to my Carson no cohost to keep me in check and keep the show interesting with more than one viewpoint at the helm, so I abandoned ship. 

Then in the summer of 2015 something serendipitous happened. I became Facebook friends with both Al Pist from The Pist and Larry Damore from Pegboy. Both of these gentlemen were personal heroes of mine, Al Pist because he is my all-time favorite lyricist and Larry Damore because Pegboy's "Strong Reaction" was the first punk album I had ever heard and it dragged me out of the stale depths of the metal world and into the vibrant and politically conscious punk world where I so belonged. Oddly enough I had tried to reach out to both Al and Larry in 2013 to no avail but it seemed the starts had realigned and now was the time to bring back Musical Osmosis.


But did I want to bring it back alone....?

The answer was a quantitative-NO! So the search began for a cohost. I say search but in reality, it was a shortlist of longtime friends I had talked with, listened to, and played music with over the years and at the top of my "mad respect for your musical knowledge" list was a man named Odell Norman. And as they say, the rest is musical history. 


Over the past 4 years, Musical Osmosis has allowed us to chat with some of the greats from the punk world and beyond. But it has also given me the motivation to start searching out new music again after a 10-year funk of listening to the same NOFX and Screeching Weasel albums over and over again. And just like the name suggest we have gone through our own Osmosis as we have grown as podcast hosts and evolved our format to bring the fans what we consider some damn good conversations with old school punk legends like Dave Dictor and Jughead to artists who are redefining rock music like Bonnie Bloomgarden and Crow Jane. 


This new website which will not only showcase our long-running Musical Osmosis podcast but will also expand into the world of video interviews and music reviews is just the next step in our journey. A journey we are happy you have chosen to come along on, but it will also serve as a fulcrum for my mission statement that I call "Weaponized Creativity"- the process of combating fascism and hate with music and creative expression. In my opinion, art is the last bastion against fascism and has never been as sorely need as today. 


In closing, I want to thank you for reading the long stream of conscious ramblings of an almost 50-year-old punk dude and to remind myself that our podcast is only as good as our guests and only as successful as YOU the fans allow us to be.  -Saucey 

Subscribe for updates